Primaluna, good deal!?!?!

[shiseido]

Weel, after having bought the primare, my need for a valve amp, continued, so ive sold the primare and ive got a deal in a used (9/2004) prima luna prologue two, about 100hours, in box, for 900€. I know its not a bargain (price new 1500€) , but its a good and fair price?? i can get an new (from china) cayin a 50t for more or less 600/650 € plus taxes , what should be best? the used primaluna or the new cayin? I have some jm labs chorus 714s (91db) and i listen to 80´s rock, pink floyd, supertramp, zz top, peter murphy and so on and my living room is 25m2 . What should be better? Thanks for the help

[Thedude11]

the prima luna is identical with the cayin ta 35 to my knowledge.so better choice would be getting an a50 or a70 for the same price directly from china.

greetings

Gerd

[shiseido]

well, they seem similar.... the primaluna has auto bias, the others no and i have assistance, in the other hand, the a50t new would be cheaper, the a70t no, and i would have to deal with bias, and if it comes with some problem, im f&%/%
the opera consonance 88-10 its betwwen the price of a50t and a70t and the 100-10 is at same price of a50t.
the a50t (el34) would have enough juice to my jm lab speakers??

[Thedude11]

dont worry about the bias.you only have to do it once if you wont change the output tubes.that is no problem.if you start to google you will see prima luna uses the circut of the ta 35 of cayin.it is identical.

as for the a50 / 70 opera you should first decide which tube sound you want to have.the sound of a KT66 / KT88 / PP300B / EL34 after that you can ceck your funds and decide which modell to buy.

greetings

Gerd

[shiseido]

The €€€€€ just allow me to an el34, the kt 88 are more expansive (cayin a 70t), the only one tht i can get, is the used primaluna two (kt88) for 900€. I was thinking in the cayin a 50t from timaudio, but im a litlle afraid from buying something from so far away but in the shops, its price is 1300€ (half from china)
The one with 60w is the jolida jd502b, is this anygood....? sorry but im a litle confuse

[Thedude11]

that is no problem.you could take several types with 91db of your jm lab.depending on the size of your listening room KT88 would be a good choice.maybe the A88T would be a good choice.if you dont like it you can sell it for the same pricing and get yourself a different one if you order directly in china.

greetings

Gerd

[shiseido]

maybe the A88T would be a good choice

Theres a small problem...the a88t price!! I cant afford one, i just can buy the a50t, the primaluna used or the jolida 502b . My living room is 25 m2.

[Thedude11]

ok if there is a problem with the pricing i would recommend the jolida JD801 with 4x KT88 tubes and remote control.high output power KT88 tubes.of course you can choose the 502B also.

you can start rolling tubes if you arent satisfied with it and the pricing should be way below the cayin.

greetings

Gerd

[Erzkanzler]

Hello,

I would recommend the Cayin A-70T, with the benefit to upgrade later to KT88. A more adult amplifier then A-50T, hand wired, remote controlled etc.

Regards
Martin

[shiseido]

i would recommend the jolida JD801 with 4x KT88 tubes and remote control.high output power KT88 tubes.of course you can choose the 502B also

The 801 i dont know the price but it should be more expansive than 502b.

you can start rolling tubes if you arent satisfied with it and the pricing should be way below the cayin

No, its more expansive, tha cayin a50t is 810 usd with insurance and the jolida jd502b is 860usd.....

[Erzkanzler]

Shiseido,

I've sent a PN.

Regards
Martin

[shiseido]

Thanks
Anybody knows if is possible to change from the el34 to kt88 in the cayin a50t, in their website (the review) it seems that is possible, but its strange....

[Erzkanzler]

There are 2 different models, A-50T for EL34 and A-55T for KT88.
The problem is that EL34 needs a higher bias voltage for the grid. Better to realize with a switch like in the A-70T.

Regards
Martin

[shiseido]

Ok, but the problem is that i cant afford an a70t (only used, but its almost imposseble to get one), the a55t, they (timaudio only, the other i dont know, and i dont know if its much more expansive) dont have to sell.

[Thedude11]

maybe try the jolida or meixing then if you can get one cheap but for sure it would be better to invest some euros more in a cayin than saving 50 bucks and buying the other brands.

greetings

Gerd

[Tom_H]

that also would be my recomendation. Wait for a while, save some more money and buy the A88T..........